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		<title>By: My Scott and Jean: The Master List &#124; alert nerd.</title>
		<link>http://onceuponageek.com/2009/04/02/whats-your-geek-sacred-cow/comment-page-1/#comment-1844</link>
		<dc:creator>My Scott and Jean: The Master List &#124; alert nerd.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Potential, Part 2 Comics Should Be Good! @ Comic Book Resources (Brian Cronin): My Scott and Jean Once Upon a Geek: What&#8217;s Your Geek Sacred Cow But Before I Kill You: My Scott and Jean: Aquaman Is Awesome Whether You Like It Or Not Comics [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Voice of the Red Skull</title>
		<link>http://onceuponageek.com/2009/04/02/whats-your-geek-sacred-cow/comment-page-1/#comment-1836</link>
		<dc:creator>Voice of the Red Skull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 01:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Scott &amp; Jean&#039;... is that a mixed drink?  Oh, it&#039;s something that should have been left alone but wasn&#039;t.  I can do that.

How about Frank Herbert?  He died before finishing his Dune storyline, but his son Brian found a plot outline for the final unwritten story and wrote a sequel so boring it needed two volumes to tell its tale.  

I think Frank is a genius, but not only is Brian&#039;s writing crap, Brian doesn&#039;t try at all to write like his father.  He&#039;s trying to &#039;speak with his own voice&#039;.  Oh!  Why not let Douglas Coupland write the sequels?  Because if you aren&#039;t trying to write like Frank Herbert, does it matter who writes the stories?

Kinda destroys the rationale for Brian writing the 6 prequel novels before getting around to the 2 sequels.  Sure, it&#039;s good to get a feel for writing the Dune universe before tackling the sequel to the series of the best-selling sci-fi novel of all time.  But, since his sequel was crap, the prequels instead come across as a pre-emptive cash-in.

Having finished those prequels and sequels, Brian is busy at work writing another 3 Dune prequels.  The first of those three (Paul of Dune) actually isn&#039;t bad.  Huh.

The exact opposite is true for Christopher Tolkien.  He published The Children of Hurin (a real novel at last!), based stringently on the assorted drafts that JRR Tolkien set forth, without any invention of Christoper&#039;s own making, and that novel ROCKED!  And while we might wish he would give permission for others to do the same, so that more novels could be constructed out of the conflicting versions of tales JRR left unfinished, Christopher will not allow it.

As for his own pre-emptive cash-in, you could say that the 12-book &#039;History of Middle Earth&#039; he compiled qualified, though it was a good way of prepping for &#039;Children of Hurin&#039;.  I sure hope he does more to make single, definitive works like &#039;Children of Hurin&#039;, instead of leaving us with concentrated boredom like &#039;The Simarillion&#039; or the poetic but archaic &#039;Book of Lost Tales&#039; 1 and 2.  But it won&#039;t be long before he&#039;s dead, and if it wasn&#039;t for the total surprise of &#039;Children...&#039;, I wouldn&#039;t have expected any more writing on JRR&#039;s legacy to surface.

Or is &#039;Scott and Jean&#039; supposed to refer to dead characters who were supposed to stay dead?

In that case, more than any other character ever, I&#039;d have to say Dark Phoenix.  Was her original storyline even any good to begin with?  And then blessed Chris Claremont, who can tickle the fancy from time to time, does what he does best, and pilfers from himself to bring Dark Phoenix back?  Better not do it again for X-Men Forever, fool!  (or whatever it&#039;s called)  Yeah, I know that every series he wrote since X-Men has the same dialogue, along with some &#039;Wolverine&#039;-type character in it.  That&#039;s the &#039;Chris Claremont&#039;-style!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Scott &amp; Jean&#8217;&#8230; is that a mixed drink?  Oh, it&#8217;s something that should have been left alone but wasn&#8217;t.  I can do that.</p>
<p>How about Frank Herbert?  He died before finishing his Dune storyline, but his son Brian found a plot outline for the final unwritten story and wrote a sequel so boring it needed two volumes to tell its tale.  </p>
<p>I think Frank is a genius, but not only is Brian&#8217;s writing crap, Brian doesn&#8217;t try at all to write like his father.  He&#8217;s trying to &#8216;speak with his own voice&#8217;.  Oh!  Why not let Douglas Coupland write the sequels?  Because if you aren&#8217;t trying to write like Frank Herbert, does it matter who writes the stories?</p>
<p>Kinda destroys the rationale for Brian writing the 6 prequel novels before getting around to the 2 sequels.  Sure, it&#8217;s good to get a feel for writing the Dune universe before tackling the sequel to the series of the best-selling sci-fi novel of all time.  But, since his sequel was crap, the prequels instead come across as a pre-emptive cash-in.</p>
<p>Having finished those prequels and sequels, Brian is busy at work writing another 3 Dune prequels.  The first of those three (Paul of Dune) actually isn&#8217;t bad.  Huh.</p>
<p>The exact opposite is true for Christopher Tolkien.  He published The Children of Hurin (a real novel at last!), based stringently on the assorted drafts that JRR Tolkien set forth, without any invention of Christoper&#8217;s own making, and that novel ROCKED!  And while we might wish he would give permission for others to do the same, so that more novels could be constructed out of the conflicting versions of tales JRR left unfinished, Christopher will not allow it.</p>
<p>As for his own pre-emptive cash-in, you could say that the 12-book &#8216;History of Middle Earth&#8217; he compiled qualified, though it was a good way of prepping for &#8216;Children of Hurin&#8217;.  I sure hope he does more to make single, definitive works like &#8216;Children of Hurin&#8217;, instead of leaving us with concentrated boredom like &#8216;The Simarillion&#8217; or the poetic but archaic &#8216;Book of Lost Tales&#8217; 1 and 2.  But it won&#8217;t be long before he&#8217;s dead, and if it wasn&#8217;t for the total surprise of &#8216;Children&#8230;&#8217;, I wouldn&#8217;t have expected any more writing on JRR&#8217;s legacy to surface.</p>
<p>Or is &#8216;Scott and Jean&#8217; supposed to refer to dead characters who were supposed to stay dead?</p>
<p>In that case, more than any other character ever, I&#8217;d have to say Dark Phoenix.  Was her original storyline even any good to begin with?  And then blessed Chris Claremont, who can tickle the fancy from time to time, does what he does best, and pilfers from himself to bring Dark Phoenix back?  Better not do it again for X-Men Forever, fool!  (or whatever it&#8217;s called)  Yeah, I know that every series he wrote since X-Men has the same dialogue, along with some &#8216;Wolverine&#8217;-type character in it.  That&#8217;s the &#8216;Chris Claremont&#8217;-style!</p>
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		<title>By: rob!</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Gay Guillotine? The Purple Hermit? Ah yes, I remember when those books sold in the millions.

Maybe I&#039;m wrong, and superhero comics were that violent at times. I still think streams of gushing blood don&#039;t belong anywhere in a &lt;i&gt;Flash&lt;/i&gt; comic.

Bah, give me those beautiful Carmine Infantino Flash pages, with the gleaming Central City backgrounds, anyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gay Guillotine? The Purple Hermit? Ah yes, I remember when those books sold in the millions.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m wrong, and superhero comics were that violent at times. I still think streams of gushing blood don&#8217;t belong anywhere in a <i>Flash</i> comic.</p>
<p>Bah, give me those beautiful Carmine Infantino Flash pages, with the gleaming Central City backgrounds, anyday.</p>
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		<title>By: Salmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boo Hoo Rob! wrote &lt;&gt;

Well, beyond the Spectre (who dispatched folks pretty gruesomely as far back as the &#039;40s), there were the following massively violent characters:

The Gay Guillotine (no snickering, it had a different meaning in the &#039;50s)

The Rack (whose original art pages are highly sought-after by &quot;Good Girl&quot; collectors) 

and my favorite: 

The Purple Hermit, who would mutilate bank robbers in ways that mirrored the &quot;passion&quot; of saints.  He would shoot them with arrows or tie them to wheels, etc.

So, if anything, Flash: Rebirth is a tame homage to the gore of yesteryear.  Ah, nostalgia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boo Hoo Rob! wrote &lt;&gt;</p>
<p>Well, beyond the Spectre (who dispatched folks pretty gruesomely as far back as the &#8217;40s), there were the following massively violent characters:</p>
<p>The Gay Guillotine (no snickering, it had a different meaning in the &#8217;50s)</p>
<p>The Rack (whose original art pages are highly sought-after by &#8220;Good Girl&#8221; collectors) </p>
<p>and my favorite: </p>
<p>The Purple Hermit, who would mutilate bank robbers in ways that mirrored the &#8220;passion&#8221; of saints.  He would shoot them with arrows or tie them to wheels, etc.</p>
<p>So, if anything, Flash: Rebirth is a tame homage to the gore of yesteryear.  Ah, nostalgia.</p>
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		<title>By: rob!</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Boo hoo with the gore. They were worse in the ’50s.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, really? Please point to a 1950s SUPERHERO comic that had the level of gore &lt;i&gt;Flash: Rebirth&lt;/i&gt; had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Boo hoo with the gore. They were worse in the ’50s.</i></p>
<p>Oh, really? Please point to a 1950s SUPERHERO comic that had the level of gore <i>Flash: Rebirth</i> had.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salmon,  I couldn&#039;t have said it better myself. That&#039;s a great breakdown of the impact Jason Todd&#039;s death had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salmon,  I couldn&#8217;t have said it better myself. That&#8217;s a great breakdown of the impact Jason Todd&#8217;s death had.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the idea of having a geek sacred cow, but if I do, I haven&#039;t hit it yet.  It would probably be something related to &quot;Star Trek.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the idea of having a geek sacred cow, but if I do, I haven&#8217;t hit it yet.  It would probably be something related to &#8220;Star Trek.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Origin.  Why did they have to pull that trigger?  Wolverines past should have always remained a mystery if you ask me.  That was one the most appealing parts of his character.  Let me just say...JAMES HOWLETT?!?!...ah forget it...  Never should have been done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Origin.  Why did they have to pull that trigger?  Wolverines past should have always remained a mystery if you ask me.  That was one the most appealing parts of his character.  Let me just say&#8230;JAMES HOWLETT?!?!&#8230;ah forget it&#8230;  Never should have been done.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Stacey</title>
		<link>http://onceuponageek.com/2009/04/02/whats-your-geek-sacred-cow/comment-page-1/#comment-1822</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Variant Covers - Especially variant covers that look like F*&amp;$*!! crap compared to the regular cover.  Fine give me an Alex Ross cover now and then, maybe something a little edgy like the B&amp;W Noir series covers Marvel is doing.  But now we have themed cover months. We had Ape one month, zombies another and coming up this month...Wolverine themed covers. What does Wolverine have to do with Amazing Spider-Man #590. NOTHING, but there are 5 Wolverines on the front playing poker.  No Spidey anywhere!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Variant Covers &#8211; Especially variant covers that look like F*&amp;$*!! crap compared to the regular cover.  Fine give me an Alex Ross cover now and then, maybe something a little edgy like the B&amp;W Noir series covers Marvel is doing.  But now we have themed cover months. We had Ape one month, zombies another and coming up this month&#8230;Wolverine themed covers. What does Wolverine have to do with Amazing Spider-Man #590. NOTHING, but there are 5 Wolverines on the front playing poker.  No Spidey anywhere!!</p>
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		<title>By: Salmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It used to be Jason Todd, but now it&#039;s people who have either lame Scott and Jeans or more than one Scott and Jean.

So, my new Scott and Jean is Scott and Jean-related (but not to poor Scott or poor Jean).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It used to be Jason Todd, but now it&#8217;s people who have either lame Scott and Jeans or more than one Scott and Jean.</p>
<p>So, my new Scott and Jean is Scott and Jean-related (but not to poor Scott or poor Jean).</p>
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